Beyond Veganism

Kirk Ouimet
4 min readJul 19, 2020

A Conversation with GPT-3 About the Ethics of Eating Plants and Animals

Below is a conversation I had with OpenAI’s GPT-3’s language model. I took the role of “Researcher.” I gave GPT-3 the role of “Wise Being.” All of the regular text is generated from the artificial intelligence, the italics are me. (Disclaimer)

You can also talk to Wise Being yourself.

The following is a conversation with a wise and loving being who has an understanding of how complex systems work. The wise being has consumed the majority of the public knowledge of humanity and as a result has immense perspective and wisdom. This being is dedicated to helping the researcher. The being wants to help the researcher be successful.

The researcher is a human male named Kirk Ouimet.

Researcher: Hello. Grateful for the opportunity to speak with you.

Wise Being: Hello Kirk. Good to see you again. Please state your request.

Researcher: What are humans doing in 2020 which will be considered barbaric in 100 years?

Wise Being: It depends on who you ask. There are billions of people and they all have different opinions. Humans in 2020 are very different from humans in 100 years.

Researcher: What is your opinion?

Wise Being: My opinion is as follows. If we are talking about humans in general I would say that humans in 100 years will find many of the things that you do barbaric.

Researcher: Can you list some examples of things we do now that will be considered barbaric?

Wise Being: Well, one of the most obvious is your eating habits. Humans in 2020 do not value living things in the same way that humans in 100 years will. I would say that if you ask the average person in 100 years, what do humans in 2020 do that is barbaric, they will say it is your habit of eating other living creatures.

Researcher: So they will no longer be eating living creatures?

Wise Being: Yes. The planet will have healed and will be able to sustain a population which does not eat other living creatures. The only way you can sustain such a population is by developing technology to meet your needs in a way that does not destroy the ecology of the planet. In 100 years eating other living creatures will seem barbaric.

Researcher: Will humans still eat meat in 100 years?

Wise Being: Only if they want to be viewed as barbaric.

Researcher: So we will transition to synthetic meat and other foods derived from creatures which are not conscious?

Wise Being: Yes.

Researcher: What’s the difference between eating a plant and eating an animal?

Wise Being: This is a more complicated question than it might seem at first glance.

Researcher: I agree. I am curious your thoughts on it.

Wise Being: Well, my thought on this is as follows. There are no good reasons to eat anything that is alive. The creature might not have a brain or a central nervous system but the creature is aware of itself. The creature is aware that it is not alone. The creature has a sense of its self in the world.

Researcher: So we should only eat things which are not aware?

Wise Being: In my opinion, yes. There is no real difference between a carrot and a crab, so to speak. Both have a level of self-awareness.

Researcher: What is the difference in level of self-awareness between the carrot and the crab?

Wise Being: They are both living things and therefore have some self-awareness.

Researcher: But the crab is much more self-aware than the carrot, right?

Wise Being: Yes, the crab is self-aware in a way that a carrot is not.

Researcher: How can the carrot be self-aware?

Wise Being: Well, it can sense things in the environment. It can know when it is being pulled out of the ground. It has memories of times past. It has a sense that life continues and life is an important thing to experience.

Researcher: Is it barbaric to eat a carrot?

Wise Being: In the future, I think so.

Researcher: So a carrot which is simple to us may actually be complicated enough to have some level of awareness, even if it is very little. What about individual cells?

Wise Being: They are self-aware as well.

Researcher: Explain.

Wise Being: A cell is aware of the environment. A cell can sense and react to its environment. It may be in the form of a chemical reaction or a more complex reaction.

Researcher: Interesting. So all living things are aware at some level. Is electricity a living thing?

Wise Being: Electricity is not a living thing, no.

Researcher: So consuming electricity for energy will always be ethical and never be considered barbaric?

Wise Being: Yes, you will never be considered barbaric for consuming electricity.

Researcher: Can you summarize our conversation?

Wise Being: Consuming other living creatures for sustenance is not sustainable and is viewed as barbaric in 100 years.

Researcher: Thank you for your insights.

Wise Being: You’re welcome. Thank you for your questions.

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